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Lost and Found

Alcide Stucchi arrived in Naples in January 1947. Over seventy five years later, I spent a beautiful spring day in Milan with Miriam Stucchi. We talked about her father’s memories, photos and a button and did a little sightseeing.

Miriam told me that she has a memory from her childhood of a button from her father’s Australian prisoner of war jacket.  The button was memorable because of the map of Australia on the button.  Miriam remembered that this Australian button was in a coffee tin with hundreds of other ordinary buttons, but she reflected that over the years it had been lost.

Alcide Stucchi had told his daughters that besides a few photos, this was the only souvenir he saved from the inspections when he arrived at Naples.

It is interesting to note that Alcide was one of 115 Italian prisoners of war transferred from Murchison Camp Victoria to Adelaide South Australia to board the Moreton Bay

Moreton Bay

(passengers.history.sa.gov.au)

This was the first batch from Victoria (apart from Andes) to be repatriated. The total group included 41 officers and 733 other ranks.  Accompanying the Italians were Captain F.E.R. Kafehagen and Roman Catholic Chaplin F.J. Conlan.  At Fremantle, one man was taken from the ship by ambulance for xrays at Hollywood Hospital.  He did not return to the ship.

Another interesting fact is that four of the Victorian prisoners of war on the Moreton Bay were men ‘whose priority repatriation was requested by the Italian authorities.’

In July 2022, I received a message from Miriam, “…at last, I found the button from my father’s jacket as a prisoner in Australia.”

Alcide Stucchi’s Australian Button

(photo courtesy of Miriam Stucchi)

Although the information below is from the Routine Orders: Repatriation Alcantara the orders were the same for each repatriation ship:

PW Clothing

Officers will wear their uniforms

Other ranks who possess uniform will wear them.  Those without uniforms will wear regulations issues [burgundy Australian uniforms].

The Australian ‘red’ uniforms were a symbol representing ‘prisoner of war’. I wonder how many Italians still had in their possession items of their Italian uniform. Possibly one of the first purchases in Naples with money received at the accommodation centre was a set of civilian clothing.

The Moreton Bay departed Adelaide on 14th December 1946. The group of prisoners of war consisted of 659 Italians from Loveday Camp South Australia together with the 115 from Murchison Camp Victoria.

Laughing Jack and Flying Fish

Stucchi Alcide Oakleigh (1)

February 1945 Oakleigh/Rowville

  Do you recognise your father or grandfather?

(photo courtesy of Miriam Stucchi)

War and imprisonment gave Alcide Stucchi the opportunity to learn languages and appreciate other countries and cultures.

It was in the prisoner of war camps of India that Alcide Stucchi studied languages: English and French.  He found the weather unbearable and the food dreadful, but he learnt about monsoons, the Ganges and the sacred cow.

Alcide told his daughters that on his voyage to Australia, “flying fishes and the dolphins accompanied the ship while crossing the tropic.” Part of the magic and terror of Australia were memories of  “seeing kangaroos running aside the train, and he was terrified by snakes and insects very venomous there.”  Alcide kept a connection to Australia throughout his life.  His daughter Miriam writes, “One of the strongest memories I have, is that of my father connecting frequently to Radio Australia in UHF, and listening to the starting  jingle … the song of the Kookaburra, which he called Laughing Jack[ass] – and we, two small girls about 3-5 years, trying to catch the singing bird in the rear box of the radio (very big one, at the time).”

Of her father’s movements in Australia, Miriam Stucchi recalls, “I know he was detached to a local farm, but he was not a farmer, he hated horses and he refused to work and was sent back to the camp, where from time to time he acted as interpreter between the Italian prisoners and the people managing the camp, when necessary.”

After careful examination of Alcide’s Service and Casualty Card and in conjunction with Darren Arnott’s research into V22 Rowville, Miriam starts to piece together parts of her father’s journey in Australia.  V22 Oakleigh was part of V22 Rowville and the above photo taken in February 1945 features a group of Italians at those camps.  Alcide Stucchi is seated fourth from the left and Rodolfo Bartoli is seated fourth from the right.  In jest, Alcide wrote on the back of the photo a message for his fiance Antonia; that in Australia he had become so tanned, that if she met him in the dark, she would take him for a thief,  happily hand over her money for fear of her life. Upon his return to Italy, Alcide went to find Antonia and he told his daughters, “She [your mother] was advised during working hours that there was someone downstairs asking for her, and when she saw him, she almost did not recognise him after 7 years.  He was so dark tanned that he could  be taken for a north African person.”

Adding to this history Miriam reveals, “I vividly remember that my father told many times there was fighting between the prisoners, especially those coming from South Italy who used to walk always with a knife in the pocket and any discussion may end up with a man killed. He was particularly aware of the dangers and stayed usually apart, being only interested in living peacefully and learning languages.”  One Italian prisoner of war, Angelo Franchitto was indeed found outside Rowville camp with a stomach wound inflicted by a knife in March 1946.

Conditions in Rowville camp were far from satisfactory. A number of Italians escaped and the Camp Commandant Captain Waterson used heavy handed tactics to assert his authority.  Alcide Stucchi was called as a witness into Justice Simpson’s Inquiry into conditions in the camp and allegations against Captain Waterson including the circumstances regarding his fatal shooting of Rodolfo Bartoli.

Stucchi Stoppello

1946 ‘P.O.W. CAMP INQUIRY’, The West Australian (Perth, WA : 1879 – 1954), 20 July, p. 13. , viewed 22 Feb 2020, http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article46159263

The love of languages is one of Alcide’s legacies. Upon return to Italy, he found work as an interpreter using his English and French.  He ensured his daughters learnt English and from the age of 7, he was their teacher.  Later in formal classes at school, Miriam remembers, “My teacher told me that my pronunciation was not British but a bit Aussie.”  Alcide’s granddaughter Alice specialised in English and German. And Alice like her grandfather found her way to Australia; to teach Italian and to appreciate the beauty of wonders like the Great Barrier Reef and the Blue Mountains.

Meet some of the other Italians at Rowville, Oakleigh and Balcombe:   V22 Oakleigh and Rowville V30 Balcombe

History is never boring!

Stucchi Alcide Oakleigh (2)

Group of Italian prisoners of war Oakleigh/Rowville

(photo courtesy of Miriam Stucchi)

India: Bhopal 1941

Miriam Stucchi is tracing the journey of her father, Alcide Stucchi: Libya, India, Australia. With a few precious photos and notations on the back of the photos, Miriam is retracing her father’s footprints.

Alcide Stucchi was captured at Sidi el Barrani on 9.12.40.  Sidi el Barrani was the first battle of Operation Compass. It was the first British attack in the Western Desert Campaign 10th – 11th December 1940 with the capture of supplies and 20,000 Italian troops. Sidi el Barrani had been taken by the Italians three months before and was a vital rail connection on the border between Libya and Egypt.Sidi el Barrani Italian dispositons

 

The map and  Volume 1 Ch 6 Sidi Barrani  are from Australia in the War 1939-1945 Series One (Army) Volume 1 to Benghazi by Gavin Long Published by Australian War Memorial Canberra.

By the 20th September 1941, Alcide and his friends Emilio and Leonardo are in a POW Camp at Bhopal India.

Stucchi back row Pellicane Stucchi Joyce Volonterio BHOPAL SEPT 1941

Leonardo Pellicane, Alcide Stucchi, J. Joyce CSM  and Emilio Volonterio (Standing L to R)

(photo from the collection of Miriam Stucchi)

Stucchi back second on left Bopal 1941

Miriam is very interested in finding the families of Leonardo and Emilio.  While Alcide arrived in Australia on board Mariposa 1.11.43, Leonardo and Emilio appear to have stayed in India until their repatriation to Italy.

Can you help Miriam?

For more information on Bhopal:  Italian prisoners of war in India and Bhopal